Monday, 5 March 2007

Is There A Point To Second Life?

I am not a “Second Lifer” if that is what you call people who divulge, and to be honest I do not really see what the attraction is. Firstly for those who don’t know what it is there is a detailed definition on Wikipedia, in simple terms it is a virtual world on the internet where you can interact with others as whoever you want to be.

I have been thinking about why people would actively take part in Second Life, and as of February 2007 there were 4 million people that do. Understanding that people may be going there to get away from it all, being someone else, leaving your life or troubles behind and linking up with like type people could be plausible reasons. When you then learn that people do this full time, and there is a currency in this “world” I can not really comprehend what the appeal is. Does Second Life not just encourage people to lie about who or what they are? Is it safe to be let loose in a world like this, especially for the young and vulnerable?

Second Life clearly has hit a chord with millions and it has even reached the business world as there are companies and brands entering into this world. I was astonished when I heard that there was a contest running to set up a business plan in the virtual world. I really have to question what is the point of investing a company’s time and money to this venture? If you are interested the winner was a company called Market Truths. What I found interesting was that the main reason that they won was because they have real life experience of carrying out market research for years. Surely Market Truth are only treating this as a PR opportunity which they can use in real life, what other benefit can they be getting from this? The aim is to carry out research on the “people” in Second Life but what is the point? The results will be meaningless as sample segmentation will be ridiculous. How can you make decisions based on research that is captured through surveys of people using real life gender, in world gender, real world age, in world age, race, size etc etc.. But the most fundamental question is how can you trust the responses form a world where lies are common place?

This has not stopped companies like Toyota, General Motors and American Apparel from entering but they really can’t be seriously treating this as strategic marketing activity. Vodafone are one of the latest companies to talk about opening a store in Second Life, but are they doing this with a hope of creating revenue in the virtual world or trying to connect to people that they hope will find an affinity with them in the real world. I would suggest it will be the latter as I find it very difficult to believe real money can be made, for businesses, in Second Life.

As I said at the start I have not ventured in, and I doubt I will in the future. I have however watched an hour long presentation showing a glimpse inside Second Life delivered by Philip Rosedale & Cory Ondrejka. If you want to see it take a look.

I would be interested to hear your thoughts on Second Life whether it be from an individual or business usage perspective.

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Intellagirl said...

My suggestion, if you really want to be able to evaluate whether SL represents something important or not, is to hop in for yourself. So far, this reads like a movie review written by someone who only saw he trailer. I really don't think you can form an opinion from what others report so just check it out for yourself! :)
Intellagirl

marvinnaorlunga said...

True, but you have to form your opinions from somewhere and many people have to make judgements about whether something is valuable to them based on others opinions. It's more a judgement of how best to spend your time...you can't try everything.

I did have a go at SL and I haven't been back. Mainly because I haven't got the time to keep track of my first life, let alone another one.

It's obviously not w/o value though...some people are allegedly making money from their virtual existences...and fair play to them. It's just not for me.

I note that there is now a Chinese clone of SL.

Economic said...

Here is the thing, if you are going to post on Second Life, get the facts straight. The total number of users who remain in Second Life after trying it is about 10%. While their is a "limited revocable right" to their Linden Dollars, it has no recognized value by anyone outside their Linden Labs controlled society. The average return on investment for a corporate island is three users a day...

AC said...

I agree that it's usually best to try something out properly before forming an opinion, but I have to agree - second life appears to be for people who don't get adequate pleasure from their Real Life.

In responding to the original point I think the article was aiming for, it is interesting how businesses are incorporating this new world in their marketing communications. I can see the appeal of establishing a brand presence because of the potential benefits of establishing a link with a cutting edge social-techology. But I think the risk of the brand being defaced is also high. In long run, any PR could be good PR.

With regards to the company doing market research inside the game, it seems a little pointless - as users are more likely to create an avatar based an 'ideal perception' of themselves rather than who they actually are.

Anonymous said...

I am bemused at the whole concept of Second Life. If I had the luxury of extensive recreational time, it would definately be spent in a non-virtual manner.

Is it one giant computer game with the freedom to create your own character? In that case I will choose my old favourite; Mario from the Mario Brothers. I echo the comments posted that Second Life is a virtual environment where people can 'leave your life or troubles behind'. If Second Life can act as a medium for people to 'get it out of their system' then I am an advocate, in the hope that in their 'real life' they will channel their energies to positive effect!

Anonymous said...

Before actually trying Second Life, I was also convinced that it was a time waster for folks who aren't happy in their first life but I couldn't help being intrigued by it's wild popularity,. I decided to try it myself to see what the fuss is about. I found that I actually really loved customizing the look of my avatar, and found that dressing her and experimenting with her was a nice, relaxing way to spend some time alone. Eventually I made friends in the game I looked forward to talking to. Then I started making and building things - which, since I am a graphic designer in my real life - is especially fun for me because it's a creative outlet for me to make things that are fun and frivolous. It's now a hobby of mine that I really enjoy. I would say I spend about 6-8 hours per week in the SL realm. The way I see it, it's just another one of many hobbies I have, like reading or knitting or throwing dinner parties. And as a hobby, I have to say...it's WAY more exciting than stamp collecting.

Stu said...

Is there a point to Second Life? I suppose something like this was inevitable, with technological advancement over the last decade. But is playing a game of Halo 2 on the Xbox against a fellow fan in another country the same as setting up a whole new virtual reality? I say no, in fact I say it’s a little bit weird.

As for organisation entering a virtual world as part of their marketing activity, with a fan base of 4 million, I guess it makes sense, until you consider that the user probably doesn’t match the character’s profile in most cases. So does it give them any competitive advantage?

If this is the future I guess the question should be what is next for organisations and their marketing budget?
Will dog food companies be targeting “Tamagotchi” owners with news on their “new virtual Chicken & Rabbit” flavoured food? Or a, I just lost in Cyber space?

Linda said...

To me it's a lot like Roller Coaster Tycoon or the Sims games. You get to live in your own virtual world and create and build things. You can also do things in the virtual world that you may never do in the real world. I look forward to learning to build things in Second Life and make friends.

AC said...

I have created myself in SL now, although I'm disappointed I couldn't use my real name, instead of Andy I had to use Andii. The system told me someone is already using Andy!

Just as I mastered walking backwards and forwards some dodgy looking hoody-youth character said "Hi", so I logged off quickly before I had my wallet stolen.

SL seems interesting but I don't think my computer is powerful enough!

Court said...

I agree with others. It's 'pointless' to try and find the point of something you don't have experience with. Just because one doesn't understand it, or doesn't care for it, does not mean it is pointless. Ask yourself what is the point of your own life. To blog? to make more pointless babies? To work? to die? It's a silly armchair philosophy to ask what the point of anything is and try and deem it as a public view.

Many people thought the internet, computers, cars and many other things to be pointless at one time as well.

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Maybe the point is that, eventually, we challenge the current media of communication i.e. the word and the moving image:

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hmatt said...

Playing devil's advocate on the market research front - it is usable as a pole of aspiration, rather than reality.

Perhaps meaningless as (I imagine) it'd only confirm that everyone wants to be better looking and younger than they actually are.

Maybe - I don't have the data. But I'm not about to invest my time hunting it down!

One piece of data I'm willing to put a couple of Linden dollars on is that "Intellagirl" is a fifty year old bloke.

Bemused from Bolton said...

SL - wish I had enough time for FL - (first life for you luddards out there)- let alone start a second life.

Would be really interested to know` what the generic profile of a second lifer is.

Is SL the world turning in on itself? Are sites like these marking the end of normal life as we know it - will we end up prisoners in our home our only way of communicating via the internet because the FL is that frightening?

I sincerely hope not and have a theory about Sler's.

My theory - very happy to be corrected - is that SL is full of folk who have a lot of time on their hands and no FL experiences to fill it.

Good luck to them I say and in response `to the article marketeers are everywhere in the FL - back of buses, toilet doors etc - so I guess the next level for them must be SL.
Daft question here - but is there a third life, and if so what is that all about?

Stephen said...

Anyone...

Can you go fishing in SL, better still, could I fix it so that I catch something other than a cold! lol

Iridescent Coronet said...

In response to "bemused from bolton" .........
It's interesting to see you have nothing better to do with your life than trawl through internet forums. Perhaps you need to get out more too! :)
FL is not the "Official" opposite to SL, RL (real life for all you bemused people from bolton out there)is much more widely used.
Your SL'ers theory may be true for some. It's certainlt true that one has to invest a lot of time initially, in order to gain a good knowledge of the SL environment. But after that you can calm down a bit (although I know plenty that don't). It's just like any other hobby, some are avid users and some ocassional depending on their desires and RL commitments. I've met some pretty interesting and highly talented people "in world"
This technology is new, but don't make it something it's not. One good way of thinking about it is a kind of 3D WWW. People can buy a piece of land (web space) and then build objects on it (hypertext and images) and associate scripts with these objects to make them interactive (javascript etc.). I hope you're getting the parallel here. :) You can also link your "land parcel" from and to an external webpage using the second life unique resource locator)SLURL.
In the future is quite probable that conventional webpages will be present in second life, hopefully with all the security features enjoyed on the WWW. When these two technologies converge it could be quite an interesting time.
SL is an RL experience. What's the difference between spending a bit of time in SL and playing a game of chess or cards (both of which you can play in SL as well of course :))And what about golf, a good walk buggered up if you ask me!
SL is a hell of a diverse place and therefore very difficult to categorize. My personal experiences range from dancing (virtually and sometimes really at the same time depending on how much ive had to drink :)) to walking through a house dedicated to educating people about the symptoms of schizophrenia! (quite a disturbing, but noble cause I thought)
Is there a third life? Well I,ve seen holodecks in SL where you can escape from your second life if things are getting a bit too much. Does that qualify?
Anyway, if you're wondering whether Second Life is worth a go, give it a try, you might like it....but be patient to begin with.
Well I could talk allday about this subject, but you must be bored by now, so i'll shut up.
ps. Yes stephen you can go fishing, by all accounts it's one of the most popular passtimes in SL (strange!)
PPS. If you do decide to take the plunge, give me a shout ill give you a hand to get up and running. You can contact me using the name iv'e used for this correspondance, but of course you'll have to learn how to do that first hehehehe. Right, that's it I really have finished this time......you can stop sighing with relief now. :)

Anonymous said...

IC wrote quite a bit about SL... Sounds like he still lives in his mom's basement or has a hot wife but he's gay in FL and is scared to come out of the virtual closet(oh wait RL... so sorry!)... I've played with it. What a waste of time it was. The most use I have seen people get out of it was do stuff they couldn't do in RL... like get a new girl or be muscular... Anyway, it's stupid, pointless and dead especially from a business perspective. Wake up and get a REAL LIFE!!!

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Anonymous said...

I've not used it I must admit. The idea gave me the creeps. People are hard enough to relate to in the "real" world. There are sufficient ways to "tune out" reality already. I live in a world of musically enhanced imaginings for the most part (typical mp3 life soundtrack). Thats bad enough! SL strikes me as a few steps from all the people having "virtual" conversations over bluetooth in your average street. I beg to differ regarding the utility of SL to Madison avenue. SL is a clear realization of dreams as "wish fulfillment" a window on people desires. However strange.

Anonymous said...

I tried SL out a few different times and I still don't understand why anyone would waste their time on this "game." All SL is is a glorified chat room, and the few times I went, I saw the same people "hanging out" as they called it in this world. Some of these people wouldn't even be chatting or interacting with anyone, just standing there in this virtual world. I would ask them why they weren't doing anything in real life, and they would eventually say that they had nothing to do in real life.

Well, that is pathetic, truly pathetic. Everyone has the right to do whatever he or she pleases in his/her own free time, but what a waste of your REAL life. Why don't people use the internet (which they are clearly on 24/7) to search for things to do in their local areas. I mean, there have to be dozens of things you can do either by yourself or with your friends anywhere you are. Why not make REAL friends instead of meeting and "befriending" people on SL when they are probably old perverted dudes lying through their virtual eyes!

Our society is going to tank if more and more people get sucked into this.

Well, look on the bright side, of everyone stays inside to go on SL, there will be less traffic on the road and gas prices will go down. This is sounding better than I thought.

neoplasm said...

I've been in there and I don't get it either. People keep vehemently encouraging me to buy some clothes inside - and I really don't see why I should even do that. If there's anyone out there who can tell me what's so go great about it, well, I pledge to keep an open mind.

Anonymous said...

I've been checking it out for the past few days. At first, it was interesting because there were things to learn. But now, I have to agree that the point is lost on me. As a previous poster said, people just stand around. The conversations are often horrible. Many people don't even talk. They just stand there watching everybody stand there watching.

I hopped in a plane yesterday had some fun diving at the people doing nothing in crowds. They didn't like it though. I made my character bump someone else's and was told doing so was assault. They were being serious.

So I fell in line and stood for a while saying the sort of random trivialities everyone else was saying. Time passed slowly. Someone said they like dwarfs. More time passed. Nothing was accomplished in real life. More time passed. Nothing happened.

Then people said they should go to bed, but they will see everyone tomorrow.

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I recently heard about Second Life and was told how fun and popular it was, so I jumped in. I've played some MMOs and have become tired of the grind, so I thought I'd try something different.

Well, it *was* different. Instead of a grind, there's pretty much nothing, unless you enjoy dressing up a virtual "doll" (be it a Ken or Barbie avatar). I think the key ideas in Second Life are 1) talking to people, 2) spending money, and 3) buying clothes and body appearance enhancements. Real life offers all that and much more, and is more tangible and pleasant to the senses.

I understand a (very) few make a real-life profit from Second Life. Kudos to them for finding a way to have lots of people convert their real life cash into play money, taking that play money, and turning it back into real cash for themselves. At least that does make sense.

I've invested four hours of real life in my Second Life experiment. Maybe I was just lucky with my encounters (so to speak), but my impression is that Second Life is a place for people with vampire-fantasies, furry-fantasies, or cross-dressing fanatsies that they won't fulfill in the real world. Probably safer for them in Second Life, and I imagine that's a good thing.

But all in all, my advice for them would be to put down the e-doll and go get some sunshine.

Anonymous said...

Wow - I have not visited this blog for ages and I am amazed that the responses to the second life article posted ages ago are still coning through - I have to say I am in awe of the comms potentials afforded by blogs and the level of interest in SL.

NWO said...

The Federal Reserve prints pieces of money called "dollars". They're pretty fake. Your house is pretty fake. Your personality is pretty fake. I would argue that most people in this world are already living Second Life.

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